[superstrikertwo]

Vista is stable. Its the most stable OS release Windows has ever done. More stable than XP was when it came out. Here is a site from Microsoft that lets you browse the new features. Windows Vista: Features you can also go down to your local Best Buy and play with the Vista computers.

[lamos]

Originally Posted by superstrikertwo

Vista is stable. Its the most stable OS release Windows has ever done. More stable than XP was when it came out. Here is a site from Microsoft that lets you browse the new features. Windows Vista: Features you can also go down to your local Best Buy and play with the Vista computers.

stable, maybe, but i bet they still have a lot of things to update sooner or later, and no reason to rush as people wont find a huge change when switching.

[superstrikertwo]

Well obviously there is more to update. Even though it is stable there are still bugs to be worked out. SP1 is comming out I belive in March I don't remember though. SP1 will fix the reported bugs and will also add more features.

[joeybob]

Originally Posted by superstrikertwo

Well obviously there is more to update. Even though it is stable there are still bugs to be worked out. SP1 is comming out I belive in March I don't remember though. SP1 will fix the reported bugs and will also add more features.

some people who tried it say that it is much slower than xp and also if you check the requirements, it needs atleast 800mhz where xp needed 300, that is like more than double and the ram needed is now a minimum of 512 instead of 64, so a pc with 512 wont be able to function at its best if vista is installed and which is probably why one would atleast need 1gb+ for a pc to run good with vista (1gb ram is recommended). also im not sure about this fact, but some said that vista uses something like directx10 which still is not supported by games or something like that, is that true? they said xp would work better with games for now.

[Seifer]

Originally Posted by joeybob

some people who tried it say that it is much slower than xp and also if you check the requirements, it needs atleast 800mhz where xp needed 300, that is like more than double and the ram needed is now a minimum of 512 instead of 64, so a pc with 512 wont be able to function at its best if vista is installed and which is probably why one would atleast need 1gb+ for a pc to run good with vista (1gb ram is recommended). also im not sure about this fact, but some said that vista uses something like directx10 which still is not supported by games or something like that, is that true? they said xp would work better with games for now.

i know about the slowness of the vista, but im not sure about the gaming, first time i hear it now.

[superstrikertwo]

The a lot of games work with Vista. DirectX10 is only available for Vista users. You can also download DirectX9 on Vista it will run both 9 and 10 for some reason.

Here is a list of known games that do not work with vista:
Aliens versus Predator 2
Americas Army 2.7 (32-bit)
Anno 1701
Age of Empires and the Rise of Rome expansion
Age of Empires II and the Conquerors expansion
Armed and Dangerous
Arx Fatalis
Blade Runner (32-bit)
Baldur's Gate (32bit) (Polish version, English should work well too)
Baldur's Gate: Tales of the Sword Coast (32bit) (Polish version, English should work well too)
Battle for Middle-Earth 1 & 2
Battlefield 2 & Special Forces (Run BF2.exe As Administrator.)
Battlefield 2142(32bit)
Battlefield 2142(64bit) - Same settings used on XP, crashes to desktop at every map change (after a certain period) due to low video card memory (256mb). Disable Areo or set texture settings lower.
Black and White 2
Blood II The Chosen (It rarely crashes, but this was happening under XP too.)
Broken Sword: The Angel of Death
Call of Cthulhu: Dark Corners of the Earth
Call of Duty & United Offensive
Call of Duty 2 (run cod2mp_s.exe in XP SP2 compability mode; SP fine.)
Call of Duty 2 upgraded to 1.3 works on Home Premium RTM no trouble (32 bit)
Championship Manager 2007
Civilization III (run as administrator, XP SP2 compatibility mode)
Cobra 11 - Nitro (StarForce protection vista-update required)
Command & Conquer: Generals
Commandos: Beyond The Call Of Duty
Company of Heroes (32 bit Home Premium) No prob's.
Condemned - Criminal Origins
Continuum
Counter-Strike 1.6
Counter-Strike Condition Zero
Counter-Strike Source
Crashday (With patch 1.1 + No Intro Fix)
Cricket 07 (Australian version - works on both x86 & x64)
Darwinia
Deal or No Deal
Delta Force Black Hawk Down & Team Sabre
Deus Ex
Diablo I
Diablo II - NOTE: For best results, set Compatibility Mode for application to Windows XP SP2 in the shortcut's properties and run as Administrator. This should allow all features of game to work properly, including LAN and Battle.Net play. If the game takes too long to start up, try disabling Aero Glass (or under compatability disable desktop composition).
Doom 2(Doom95) (Requires DPlay.dll in the game's directory for doom95 to work properly)
Doom 3 (Requires working OpenGL support)
Doom 3: Resurrection of Evil (Requires working OpenGL support)
Doomsday 3D Engine v1.9.0 Beta 4
Duke Nukem 3D Atomic Edition with all Add-Ons (for Windows Edition; not original 16-bit MS-DOS) (This game works slowly with too low performance if you don't install the driver of your graphic card manually although Vista automatically recognizes and installs the drivers of your graphic card and DirectX.)
Duke Nukem 3D High Resolution Pack (HRP) (also External Release (XTR)) v1.0
Duke Nukem Manhattan Project
Dungeon Keeper
EA Link for EA Games
Elder Scrolls: Oblivion
Everquest
Everquest II
F.E.A.R (32-Bit).Runs fine in XP SP2 Compatibility
F1 2006 (Win 98/Me Compatibility Mode)
FlatOut 2 (32 bit Home Premium)
Flight Simulator 2004
Flight Simulator X
FBI: Hostage Rescue
F.E.A.R
FIFA 07
Football Manager 2007
Freelancer
Flatout 2 (European with Starforce update)
Ghost Recon: Advanced Warfighter
Gothic 3 (Windows Vista wont allow 2 files to install in system folder(64 bit))
Grand Prix 4
Grand Theft Auto II
Grand Theft Auto III
Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas
Grand Theft Auto: Vice City
Guild Wars: Factions
Gun
GunBound WC
Half Life
Half Life 2 & Half Life 2: Episode One
Halo: Combat Evolved(need a patch windows tel you about it)
Halo: Custom Edition(needs a update tho download hce.halomaps.org - Halo CE Maps files and Utilities Resource for Halo Custom Edition)
Hitman: Blood Money
Hitman: Contracts
Hugo: The Evil Mirror
In The Groove + Impact dancepad
Jazz Jack Rabbit 2
Little Fighter 2 (32 bit)
KISS: Psycho Circus The Nightmare Child
Lara Croft: Tomb Raider Legend
Lego Star Wars II (64-bit)
Max Payne 1.01
Max Payne 2
Medal Of Honor: Allied Assault Installed MOHAA Ver1.1 on 32-bit Ultimate, plays fine with no problems at all, multiplayer untested as yet.
Klotski (and Microsoft Entertainment Pack 1991)
MU Online
Need for Speed (32-bit)
Need for Speed III: Hot pursuit
Need for Speed Most Wanted
Neverwinter Nights 2
NHL 06
NHL 07
Outrun 2006
Pariah (With 98/ME Compatibility mode)
Pacific Warriors
Phantasy Star Universe
Prey (Requires working OpenGL support)
Prince of Persia: The Sands of Time
Prince of Persia: The Two Thrones (Starts Windows MCE upon exit?)
Pro Evolution Soccer 6
Psychonauts
Quake 2
Quake 3
Quake 4 (v1.3) Works. Tested on Vista Enterprise 64bit
Race - The WTCC Game
Ragnarok Online
Rainbow Six: Lockdown
Rise of Nations Gold (32 bit)
RollerCoaster Tycoon [With the Loopy Landscape Add-On](Vista 32-bit)
- Add the "Windows 95" compatibility mode for the file "rct.exe"
- Add the "Full control" right to "Everyone" for the folder of RCT and its subfolders.
RollerCoaster Tycoon 2 [Original and all Add-Ons] (Vista 32-bit)
- Add the "Full control" right to "Everyone" for the folder of RCT2 and its subfolders.
RollerCoaster Tycoon 3 [Original and all Add-Ons] (Vista 32-bit)
Rome: Total War
Savage (32-bit)
Second Sight
SimCity 3000 Unlimited (32-bit)
Splinter Cell
Splinter Cell: Pandora Tomorrow
Splinter Cell: Chaos Theory
Splinter Cell: Double Agent
Star Wars Galaxies
Star Wars Galactic Battlegrounds and Clone Campaigns
Star Wars Jedi Academy (32bit)
Star Wars Jedi Outcast (32bit)
Star Wars Battlefront 2 (32bit)
Star Wars Knights of the Old Republic 2 (32 bit).Runs fine in XP SP2 Compatibility
Starcraft
Steam (Build: Jan 15 2007, 10:37:59)
Super Mario Forever (After starting the game, the mouse cursor of Vista still appears on the screen. Ignore it.)
SWAT 4 & The Stetchkov Syndicate (32-bit)
The Elderscrolls Oblivion (32-bit)
The Sims II (32-bit)
The Simpsons - Hit & Run (32-bit)
Titan Quest
Tomb Raider Legend (32bit)
Train Simulator (Microsoft) (Vista 32-bit)
Unreal Tournament 2004
Vampire the Masquerade: Bloodlines
Warcraft 3 & also The Frozen Throne(With 98/ME Compatibility Mode)
Warhammer Mark of Chaos
Warhammer Dawn Of War 40k (32 Bit)
World of Warcraft - May have issues with Graphics and Sound (Depending on Hardware Installed)
WarRock - Run with XP/SP2 Compatibility Mode (32-bit)
Wolfenstein: Enemy territory 2.60b (Worked perfectly with Ultimate RTM, usin PNY Verto GeForce 6600GT, and nVidia 97.46 forceware for Windows vista)
World Racing 2 (StarForce protection vista-update required)
Worms 4: Mayhem
Worms Armageddon with latest patch (32bit)
Worms World Party

I know its a lot but considering there are thousands of games thats not much.

[Seifer]

Originally Posted by superstrikertwo

The a lot of games work with Vista. DirectX10 is only available for Vista users. You can also download DirectX9 on Vista it will run both 9 and 10 for some reason.

Here is a list of known games that do not work with vista:
Aliens versus Predator 2
Americas Army 2.7 (32-bit)
Anno 1701
Age of Empires and the Rise of Rome expansion
Age of Empires II and the Conquerors expansion
Armed and Dangerous
Arx Fatalis
Blade Runner (32-bit)
Baldur's Gate (32bit) (Polish version, English should work well too)
Baldur's Gate: Tales of the Sword Coast (32bit) (Polish version, English should work well too)
Battle for Middle-Earth 1 & 2
Battlefield 2 & Special Forces (Run BF2.exe As Administrator.)
Battlefield 2142(32bit)
Battlefield 2142(64bit) - Same settings used on XP, crashes to desktop at every map change (after a certain period) due to low video card memory (256mb). Disable Areo or set texture settings lower.
Black and White 2
Blood II The Chosen (It rarely crashes, but this was happening under XP too.)
Broken Sword: The Angel of Death
Call of Cthulhu: Dark Corners of the Earth
Call of Duty & United Offensive
Call of Duty 2 (run cod2mp_s.exe in XP SP2 compability mode; SP fine.)
Call of Duty 2 upgraded to 1.3 works on Home Premium RTM no trouble (32 bit)
Championship Manager 2007
Civilization III (run as administrator, XP SP2 compatibility mode)
Cobra 11 - Nitro (StarForce protection vista-update required)
Command & Conquer: Generals
Commandos: Beyond The Call Of Duty
Company of Heroes (32 bit Home Premium) No prob's.
Condemned - Criminal Origins
Continuum
Counter-Strike 1.6
Counter-Strike Condition Zero
Counter-Strike Source
Crashday (With patch 1.1 + No Intro Fix)
Cricket 07 (Australian version - works on both x86 & x64)
Darwinia
Deal or No Deal
Delta Force Black Hawk Down & Team Sabre
Deus Ex
Diablo I
Diablo II - NOTE: For best results, set Compatibility Mode for application to Windows XP SP2 in the shortcut's properties and run as Administrator. This should allow all features of game to work properly, including LAN and Battle.Net play. If the game takes too long to start up, try disabling Aero Glass (or under compatability disable desktop composition).
Doom 2(Doom95) (Requires DPlay.dll in the game's directory for doom95 to work properly)
Doom 3 (Requires working OpenGL support)
Doom 3: Resurrection of Evil (Requires working OpenGL support)
Doomsday 3D Engine v1.9.0 Beta 4
Duke Nukem 3D Atomic Edition with all Add-Ons (for Windows Edition; not original 16-bit MS-DOS) (This game works slowly with too low performance if you don't install the driver of your graphic card manually although Vista automatically recognizes and installs the drivers of your graphic card and DirectX.)
Duke Nukem 3D High Resolution Pack (HRP) (also External Release (XTR)) v1.0
Duke Nukem Manhattan Project
Dungeon Keeper
EA Link for EA Games
Elder Scrolls: Oblivion
Everquest
Everquest II
F.E.A.R (32-Bit).Runs fine in XP SP2 Compatibility
F1 2006 (Win 98/Me Compatibility Mode)
FlatOut 2 (32 bit Home Premium)
Flight Simulator 2004
Flight Simulator X
FBI: Hostage Rescue
F.E.A.R
FIFA 07
Football Manager 2007
Freelancer
Flatout 2 (European with Starforce update)
Ghost Recon: Advanced Warfighter
Gothic 3 (Windows Vista wont allow 2 files to install in system folder(64 bit))
Grand Prix 4
Grand Theft Auto II
Grand Theft Auto III
Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas
Grand Theft Auto: Vice City
Guild Wars: Factions
Gun
GunBound WC
Half Life
Half Life 2 & Half Life 2: Episode One
Halo: Combat Evolved(need a patch windows tel you about it)
Halo: Custom Edition(needs a update tho download hce.halomaps.org - Halo CE Maps files and Utilities Resource for Halo Custom Edition)
Hitman: Blood Money
Hitman: Contracts
Hugo: The Evil Mirror
In The Groove + Impact dancepad
Jazz Jack Rabbit 2
Little Fighter 2 (32 bit)
KISS: Psycho Circus The Nightmare Child
Lara Croft: Tomb Raider Legend
Lego Star Wars II (64-bit)
Max Payne 1.01
Max Payne 2
Medal Of Honor: Allied Assault Installed MOHAA Ver1.1 on 32-bit Ultimate, plays fine with no problems at all, multiplayer untested as yet.
Klotski (and Microsoft Entertainment Pack 1991)
MU Online
Need for Speed (32-bit)
Need for Speed III: Hot pursuit
Need for Speed Most Wanted
Neverwinter Nights 2
NHL 06
NHL 07
Outrun 2006
Pariah (With 98/ME Compatibility mode)
Pacific Warriors
Phantasy Star Universe
Prey (Requires working OpenGL support)
Prince of Persia: The Sands of Time
Prince of Persia: The Two Thrones (Starts Windows MCE upon exit?)
Pro Evolution Soccer 6
Psychonauts
Quake 2
Quake 3
Quake 4 (v1.3) Works. Tested on Vista Enterprise 64bit
Race - The WTCC Game
Ragnarok Online
Rainbow Six: Lockdown
Rise of Nations Gold (32 bit)
RollerCoaster Tycoon [With the Loopy Landscape Add-On](Vista 32-bit)
- Add the "Windows 95" compatibility mode for the file "rct.exe"
- Add the "Full control" right to "Everyone" for the folder of RCT and its subfolders.
RollerCoaster Tycoon 2 [Original and all Add-Ons] (Vista 32-bit)
- Add the "Full control" right to "Everyone" for the folder of RCT2 and its subfolders.
RollerCoaster Tycoon 3 [Original and all Add-Ons] (Vista 32-bit)
Rome: Total War
Savage (32-bit)
Second Sight
SimCity 3000 Unlimited (32-bit)
Splinter Cell
Splinter Cell: Pandora Tomorrow
Splinter Cell: Chaos Theory
Splinter Cell: Double Agent
Star Wars Galaxies
Star Wars Galactic Battlegrounds and Clone Campaigns
Star Wars Jedi Academy (32bit)
Star Wars Jedi Outcast (32bit)
Star Wars Battlefront 2 (32bit)
Star Wars Knights of the Old Republic 2 (32 bit).Runs fine in XP SP2 Compatibility
Starcraft
Steam (Build: Jan 15 2007, 10:37:59)
Super Mario Forever (After starting the game, the mouse cursor of Vista still appears on the screen. Ignore it.)
SWAT 4 & The Stetchkov Syndicate (32-bit)
The Elderscrolls Oblivion (32-bit)
The Sims II (32-bit)
The Simpsons - Hit & Run (32-bit)
Titan Quest
Tomb Raider Legend (32bit)
Train Simulator (Microsoft) (Vista 32-bit)
Unreal Tournament 2004
Vampire the Masquerade: Bloodlines
Warcraft 3 & also The Frozen Throne(With 98/ME Compatibility Mode)
Warhammer Mark of Chaos
Warhammer Dawn Of War 40k (32 Bit)
World of Warcraft - May have issues with Graphics and Sound (Depending on Hardware Installed)
WarRock - Run with XP/SP2 Compatibility Mode (32-bit)
Wolfenstein: Enemy territory 2.60b (Worked perfectly with Ultimate RTM, usin PNY Verto GeForce 6600GT, and nVidia 97.46 forceware for Windows vista)
World Racing 2 (StarForce protection vista-update required)
Worms 4: Mayhem
Worms Armageddon with latest patch (32bit)
Worms World Party

I know its a lot but considering there are thousands of games thats not much.

even if you say it that way, some of the games listed above are a must, and for some people if these games cannot be played, then they probably wont have much to play.. generals, diablo 2 exp, battlefield 2 and even counter strike source arent supported :S what would be left for people is to go play card games anyway, that list is scary, now i have more of a reason not to get vista any time soon.

[King]

indeed is a scary list, atleast it takes out the most important titles, which means one would have to play others, and it is not even sure other games will work perfectly, this just shows that vista somehow was released without being 100%, atleast gamewise.

[lamos]

that list is huge, where did you get it from and also, does that mean other new games work ? or just untested?

[Sassydeb]

I'm planning to upgrade to the Home Basic within a week and can't wait. The security issues are important to me. The only program I have that's not capable with it is the MSN Explorer I was just wondering if I don't like it, I guess I can go back to Windows XP Professional. I feel all new programs have bugs in them.